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Old 12-13-2004, 04:04 PM   #21
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Yeah - A lot of BTT members, but what man is training them? Its like a team effort, not just 1 man (watch "Day of the Zen")..

It surely is not Carlson Gracie Jr. - He left the team in the mid-late 90's...

However, he did train several champions back in the day when USA / Japan MMA was still young and before..
he doesn't tria nthem now, but he's largely repsonsible for their growth as jiu jitsuka and fighters, in fact he fostered them far more than Miletich who basically has taken wrestlers and meshed a lot of different styles to prepare them for MMA.

I respect Miletich's genius and for creating what he did (he's from Iowa for god's sake). I think Carlson created more though. He's not completely responsible for what we see now, but he sparked the flame and fostered the fire.
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Old 12-13-2004, 05:56 PM   #22
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tell us the names of the Champions ,please
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Off of the top of my head, no. MFS also has the best team record, check Sherdog's stats. I believe BTT is in second place.
hey dude who's that in your signature?
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tell us the names of the Champions ,please
Pulver - UFC LW Champ

Hughes - UFC WW Champ

Sylvia - UFC HW Champ

Horn - TKO MW Champ

Pat himself is a former UFC WW Champ.

That's all I know of. There may be some other champs from smaller organizations that I missed.
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hey dude who's that in your signature?
Stephen Palling (dude with eye patch) and Jens Pulver after their fight at 'Solja Fight Night' Shooto Hawaii back in July.
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Pulver - UFC LW Champ

Hughes - UFC WW Champ

Sylvia - UFC HW Champ

Horn - TKO MW Champ

Pat himself is a former UFC WW Champ.

That's all I know of. There may be some other champs from smaller organizations that I missed.
Pat also trained Mark Coleman for the Pride GP
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Pulver - UFC LW Champ

Hughes - UFC WW Champ

Sylvia - UFC HW Champ

Horn - TKO MW Champ

Pat himself is a former UFC WW Champ.

That's all I know of. There may be some other champs from smaller organizations that I missed.
Hmmm..., that's interesting, didn't know Sylvia was his student.
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